577 patrons now.
Perhaps having Tibor coming to this forum to preach the Gospel of Lloyd wasn't such a grand idea?
I'm getting an absolute kick out of these two clowns. Lloyd Evans has gone full Spinal Tap!
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577 patrons now.
Perhaps having Tibor coming to this forum to preach the Gospel of Lloyd wasn't such a grand idea?
I'm getting an absolute kick out of these two clowns. Lloyd Evans has gone full Spinal Tap!
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I love how not a single person has taken me up on my offer to contact my college email to verify it's actually me.
Tibor - I don't think you understand our style of humour. Your friend/boss has a rotten reputation here and this extends to people associated with him due to the strong cult of personality he cultivates. It was mentioned that you might be Lloyd as a tongue-in-cheek gag, but fine - you're Tibor and there's no greenscreen.
Why people are giving you shit is because you continue to be associated with a lying, deceitful, greedy, rubbish bin of a human being. Mind you - you can personally be a great guy in real life. But being Lloyd's right hand guy coming into this forum is akin to JWs entering the most hardcore and private biker club and handing out Watchtowers. So you're going to get some stares, snide comments and what-not.
Now if we're willing to grant that you are indeed Tibor the gracious one, and you are correct about there being no greenscreen, can you please provide your own commentary (not Lloyd's, you are not him) on what this thread is really about? Keep it to only what your boss has stated during the livestream and in his various statements on social media. Feel no need to comment on unsubstantiated rumours, only on what Lloyd has already stated in public.
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Someone using "new low" is them being Lloyd? Good thing I didn't say "Hello" when making my introduction because that's half way to "Hello there" and that would 100% confirm me being Lloyd.No, re-read what I posted. I said who knows if you are really Lloyd in disguise. But a "new low" and piously counselling exJWs when he fucks up is a trademark of his speech and how he thinks. Evidently, you, Tibor/Lloyd/Hrvoje Vujanić have picked up a lot more from your boss than the peanuts I'm sure he pays you in.
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Isn't it odd that we had someone earlier downvoting posts critical of Lloyd, who's apparently distanced himself from him (John Redwood account / Mark Odonnell?), but there he was supporting him (as non-visibly as he could). Or else it was Lloyd who had access to the account <- what I believe
The greenscreen conversation was already over with the general consensus being Lloyd probably got better equipment and even if it was greenscreened, so what? "Tibor" decided to make an appearance right after Kim Silvio joined and started adding new details to what is already known about the Thailand trip and with regards to his wife. <--- This is the real reason why "Tibor" came and switched the topic back to the greenscreen.
Though the writing differed, Tibor used the term "new low" when describing the exJW community which has been boilerplate Lloyd-speak for years. It could be Lloyd in disguise or it could be the actual Tibor, who knows? Glad you took out the rubbish Simon, it was starting to stink in here.
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Tibor - I have a technical question...
Why don't you try sticking your head up your ass and tell us if it fits.
Creep ass enabler.
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He was going to get FREE OF CHARGE, his book translated into Spanish - which would have sold god knows how many copies, but he wouldn't give away a few free copies in English.....for a book that he was funded to produce by the community, pocketed and continues to pocket 100% of the profit and the community that funded it had to buy their own copies...
Not only that, but once he found out that some of his unpaid volunteer translators had PDF copies of his book, he attempted to dox them and threaten legal action. Sound familiar? This after he pirated Crisis of Conscience and bitterly complained about the copyright owner sending him a Cease and Desist letter.
Google the median wage for residents of Hermosillo, Mexico to ascertain the absolutely heinous nature of what he did.
How has he been allowed to do this?
The answer to that is he is taking advantage of exited cult members who were already conditioned to give their money to a "higher cause".
He has the same moral scruples of someone dealing drugs outside a rehab facility.
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Kim Silvio - I didn't get it. I just DMed you.
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Not in public. DM me if interested
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Kim Silvio:
Please tell me your joking.....omg I feel sick, how embarrassing.....really? Firstly, you can go into a book store and look, touch and read a book before you buy it....Secondly, a cover charge?
You are actually following the woman on Twitter who set up the book signing event for him.
Also: It is on this forum that he started writing his book and disclosed his original plan of writing it as his real self as a "disfellowship me" stunt to gain publicity.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/242781/ive-started-writing-my-book
This I also did not know. Was it ever spoken of publicly? I would be happy to advertise this rubbish on Twitter because people NEED to understand the past, it's not ok to let this keep happening. THIS IS EVERYONE's BUSINESS
It was spoken of briefly on this thread:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5682940001386496/charging-150-tell-your-stories?page=14
More detail was discussed on this Spanish exJW forum:
https://extj.co/foro/showthread.php?tid=1092&page=5
Don't know if you can understand Spanish, but they go back and forth there with many still blindly supporting him though it's clear he's just using their free labour and goodwill.
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Kim Silvio - You ever hear of the time he went to the undue influence conference chaired by Steve Hassan? His first child was just born and he took Dijana and Jessica with him to London. I believe it was Marc Latham who met him in the lobby and greeted them. Lloyd was more concerned about getting to the conference and setting himself up to speak so he left his newborn and wife down there and hurried up the stairs. Marc had to help Dijana with taking the pram carefully to the stairs as there was no lift. Lloyd found out there were just sitting at a table and wanted a podium for himself. He was upset.
On his book tour the first event was at a coffee shop in London. He had just crowdfunded nearly $22,000 to finish the book and insisted on selling it at the highest price Amazon would allow. A subscriber of his arranged the entire thing. When she met Lloyd she asked if she could see the book but he refused, telling her she needed to purchase it. Also Lloyd insisted on a cover charge to get near him which was news to the coffee shop management as they were not notified and it was against their policy as they were allowing him there for free. Lloyd worried that he would run out of pens for the signing.
He also crowdfunded for the Spanish translation of TRA. The translators were unpaid volunteers so he pocketed the cash. Lloyd insisted the translators have experience in that field and wanted them to submit their CV. He would only give them one chapter at a time to translate. When some wanted the whole book so they can get a grasp of it, he told them they needed to purchase the book. The Spanish translation was eventually aborted. Lloyd got paid for doing nothing. The volunteers were never compensated for their time and trouble.